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Date: Mon, 7 Nov 94 04:30:40 PST
From: Ham-Digital Mailing List and Newsgroup <ham-digital@ucsd.edu>
Errors-To: Ham-Digital-Errors@UCSD.Edu
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Subject: Ham-Digital Digest V94 #370
To: Ham-Digital
Ham-Digital Digest Mon, 7 Nov 94 Volume 94 : Issue 370
Today's Topics:
Any way to access packet from Internet?
CD Recording of Mod Types
Compatible radios with KPC9612
FBB or MSYS mailing lists???
GE Master II mods?
GRAPES (56Kbps) setups
MFJ Data Radio?
NOS-BBS LISTSERVER
Pactor, HF, Binary Fi
Pactor, HF, Binary File Transfers ( CDN Question)
Pakratt for Windows-PK232MBX Problem
Uzbekistan licensing requirements? (2 msgs)
WINSOCK <-> AX25
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Date: Tue, 1 Nov 1994 09:20:44 LOCAL
From: nielsen@primenet.com (Bob Nielsen)
Subject: Any way to access packet from Internet?
In article <395em9$8ce@usenetp1.news.prodigy.com> RMHP20A@prodigy.com (LARRY SHEPHERD ) writes:
>From: RMHP20A@prodigy.com (LARRY SHEPHERD )
>Subject: Any way to access packet from Internet?
>Date: 1 Nov 1994 13:09:29 GMT
>Is there anyway to access packet via Internet. My ham radio equipment
>not up and running. I know that there must be FCC regulations that limit
>access somehow. Larry, K3LS
>rmhp20@prodigy.com
There are several Internet-to-packet gateways running. Generally, you need to
have the sysop set up permissions for you to be able to access the radio side,
however (to keep the FCC happy). There is a list of gateways on a server in
Australia called "minnie", but I can't seem to locate the full address in my
pile of papers here.
Bob
-------
Bob Nielsen, W6SWE
Tucson, AZ
nielsen@primenet.com
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Date: Sun, 6 Nov 94 03:37:52 PST
From: Ted_Eugene_Viens@cup.portal.com
Subject: CD Recording of Mod Types
Kevin Hansen writes...
>Advertised in the "First October Issue 1994" of Amateur Radio Trader
>is a 2-CD (audio) set of modulation types. The copy claims 71
>emmissions with a running time of 2.5 hours. The price is $75 which
>includes worldwide registered airmail (the seller is in Germany).
>
>Have you heard of this item (or, better yet, used it)?
>
>Kevin Hansen
>WD6FFB
>
This is the Klingenfuss CD Recording of Modulation Types. I bought it
soon after buying the Universal Radio M1200 digital radio decoder card.
It contains copy of most digital transmission types. Mainly a wide
variety of diplomatic and military types. I used it to familiarize
myself with the sounds of digital types and also to verify the operation
of my M1200 decoder card. The CD set does not include examples of G-TOR
or Clover and would benefit from a few more examples of various MCVFT
and WDM types. Still, I found it useful in developing a basic recognition
of digital types.
Basically, if you have an average ear, you will only come to recognize ten
or so basic types. The ARQ types have their chirp-chirp, and you may learn
to distinquish SITOR-A and a couple more. And the fundamental ITA RTTY
will become familiar, but the various speeds will still be hard to disting-
uish. The FEC types will be harder to discern. They usually have a rhythym
or grittyness different from ITA Baudot. On a few occasions, I have played
the CD while listening to an unknown on the receiver. This has helped me
to sort out and decode a couple of signals.
Using the CD to verify the operation of your decoder card is equally valuable.
When you first get your decoder, the frustration of failing to decode much
can easily discourage you. With the CD set you can learn to sort out the
speeds and frequency shifts, and more importantly, learn the tricky art of
manually syncing to FEC signals.
Clearly, I think the CD set is worth owning. Klinginfuss publishes a large
library of books related to Utility Radio. I have bought most of and consider
them to be a valuable reference library.
Hope this helps... Bye... Ted..
------------------------------
Date: Tue, 1 Nov 1994 07:32:50
From: stroup@gauss.usafa.af.mil (Dave Stroup)
Subject: Compatible radios with KPC9612
To all:
I have just recently purchased a KPC 9612. I am trying to get information on
radios that are compatible with the 9600 baud port in the 2m and 70cm bands.
Can someone please provide a list of, preferably, the cheapest, radios that
fit these criterion?
Thanks in advance!!!
Dave - N0ZLZ
***************************************************
Dave Stroup N0ZLZ
stroup@gauss.usafa.af.mil
stroup@vlsia.uccs.edu
dstroup@rmii.com
n0zlz@n0zlz.ampr.org (44.32.0.212)
***************************************************
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Date: Tue, 01 Nov 94 16:34:12 MST
From: david@stat.com (David Dodell)
Subject: FBB or MSYS mailing lists???
goobie@cfcsc.dnd.ca (Keith Goobie) writes:
> In article <1994Oct19.124445.14498@govonca.gov.on.ca> rumbalj@govonca.gov.on.
>
> >Thank you for reading this posting. I am wondering if there are any FBB or
> >MSYS related mailing lists I can subscribe to, similar to the NOS-BBS list?
>
> For FBBS try f6fbb-list@stat.com.. It is a typical listserve system..
f6fbb-list is the list address, email to join the list should be sent to
listserv@stat.com; first line of text "subscribe f6fbb-list"
david wb7tpy
postmaster, stat.com
---
Editor, HICNet Medical Newsletter
Internet: david@stat.com FAX: +1 (602) 451-1165
Bitnet : ATW1H@ASUACAD
------------------------------
Date: 31 Oct 94 21:57:00 GMT
From: steve.diggs@totrbbs.atl.ga.us (Steve Diggs)
Subject: GE Master II mods?
-> Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc
-> From: grsk@vectorbd.com (Gary Skuse)
-> Subject: GE Master II mods?
-> Date: Mon, 31 Oct 1994 19:19:28 GMT
-> Message-ID: <CyJxoG.2x6@vectorbd.com>
->
-> Our local club just acquired a GE Master II for use on the 2M user
-> port. Can anyone point me toward information to modify this radio for
-> both 2M use (i.e. how do I tune it for the 2M band) and use at 9k6
-> bps? All help will be greatly appreciated.
->
-> 73, ka1njl
Glad to hear other folks beginning to use this excellent radio for
packet use. I have a GEMII of the 70cm variety that I am modifying for
9K6 packet repeater use, and have been working on the mod. since
acquiring the unit at Dayton this year.
First thing to keep in mind: the MII comes in MANY different
manufacturing versions, and it is quite easy to inadvertantly pick up
the WRONG docs for the exact unit you have. There will be a paper tag on
each PCB assembly section; go by THAT number to match docs. Disregard
any other info! Next, a simple question: in the control head area up
front of the radio, you will find a bank of pins labelled P904. Is one
of those pins marked "DISC" ??
On the receive side, my interface worked the first try. The DISC pin
noted above comes right off the IF. To improve bandpass characteristics
of the IF receive audio, the final RC filter may have to be removed, but
anyway, I was able to copy beacon text without ANY modification.
On the transmit side, the general approach is to use the temp.
compensation curcuit in the ICOMs as a way to impose 9k6 modulation on
the transmit signal. Only problem is that there is a 5 volt bias on that
line, and I'm just now getting around to constructing an OP AMP curcuit
to take the 9k6 audio and add the proper DC bias. A high performance OP
AMP is needed to not distort the 9k6 audio; I'm using the NSC LMC-6082.
Anyway, maybe between us we can come up with a "cookie cutter" MOD file
for this excellent radio.
Regards,
Steve Diggs
----
Top Of The Rock BBS - Lilburn, GA SYSOP: Steve Diggs
UUCP: totrbbs.atl.ga.us Snailmail: 4181 Wash Lee Ct.
Phone: +1 404 921 8687 Lilburn, GA 30247-7407
------------------------------
Date: 5 Nov 94 21:17:00 GMT
From: steve.diggs@totrbbs.atl.ga.us (Steve Diggs)
Subject: GRAPES (56Kbps) setups
-> We'd like to know is what people who actually have GRAPES modems
-> have. Since the distance between us is 6.5 to 10 miles, I'd
-> particularly like experiences from people who actually use GRAPES
-> over this distance.
We make extensive use of the GRAPES modem for our backbone in North
Georgia. We use a less powerful transverter to go <60> miles, so I would
think that the equivalent of two Dixie cups and some string would do
your job. <grin> We are about to try the Down East Micro unit for the
first time ourselves, but we expect acceptable performance from them.
Regards,
Steve Diggs, President
East Atlanta LAN
----
Top Of The Rock BBS - Lilburn, GA SYSOP: Steve Diggs
UUCP: totrbbs.atl.ga.us Snailmail: 4181 Wash Lee Ct.
Phone: +1 404 921 8687 Lilburn, GA 30247-7407
------------------------------
Date: Sun, 6 Nov 1994 13:16:35 GMT
From: kf5mg@metronet.com
Subject: MFJ Data Radio?
In <398hk6$8pl@bingnet1.cc.binghamton.edu>, bd27015@bingsuns.cc.binghamton.edu (Phlatline) writes:
>This is kind of a plug on from an earlier author's message.
>
>I saw an ad for MFJ's dataradio which is supposedly 9600 baud ready.
>It's a standalone crystal controlled system. (one frequency at a time,
>probably allows simplex/duplex with appropriate crystals.) any way
>the long and short of this is that i am lookin to get into packet (and
>120 for this radio does not seem like a bad price) and what ever speed
>i choose to start at i would like to be able to go to 9600 at any time
>i want.....
>
>any comments on this radio please mail or post here
>
>--Dave Graff
Call up MFJ and tell them you want info on the radio. I called them last
week to get some info on the radio. They're not ready to ship yet. The
radio requires some crystals with very strict tolerances and they're
waiting to see what freq. people will want to run 9600b on. I suggested
145.53, 145.67 and 145.69. I asked them to send me info on what type of
crystal was needed but I haven't received that info yet.
73's de Jack - kf5mg
Internet - kf5mg@kf5mg.ampr.org - 44.28.0.14
- kf5mg@metronet.com - work (looking for)
AX25net - kf5mg@kf5mg.#dfw.tx.usa.noam - home (817) 488-4386
+=======================================================================+
+ D.A.M. - Mothers Against Dyslexia +
+=======================================================================+
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Date: 7 Nov 1994 04:48:06 GMT
From: Lee Love <76666.1703@CompuServe.COM>
Subject: NOS-BBS LISTSERVER
What is the deal with the nos listserver ? I have used the
instructions left here to subscribe but I have not received a
single messages. Can someone please send me the address and
syntax once again ?
Thanks
Lee - N4LXI
--
Lee Love
76666,1703.Compuserve.com
LLove @ Novell.com
703-713-3508
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Date: Thu, 3 Nov 1994 23:56:35 GMT
From: daniel.meredith@aznetig.stat.com (Daniel Meredith)
Subject: Pactor, HF, Binary Fi
-> Path: stat!news.primenet.com!news.sprintlink.net!hookup!news.kei.com!
-> From: Cecil_A_Moore@ccm.ch.intel.com
-> Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc
-> Subject: Re: Pactor, HF, Binary File Transfers ( CDN Question)
-> Date: 3 Nov 1994 02:18:27 GMT
-> Organization: Intel Corporation, Chandler, AZ
-> Lines: 10
-> Distribution: world
-> Message-ID: <399h9j$3ad@chnews.intel.com>
-> References: <seeler.148.783690867@upei.ca>
-> NNTP-Posting-Host: scorpion.ch.intel.com
-> Keywords: Pactor and binary transfers
-> Originator: cmoore@scorpion.ch.intel.com
->
-> In article <seeler.148.783690867@upei.ca>, David Seeler <seeler@UPEI.
-> >
-> >I was wondering if anyone has come across a terminal program which p
-> >the transfer of binary data or 8 bit data via pactor.
->
-> Does UUENCODE and UUDECODE work for amateur packet like it does for i
Yes Cecil it will work fine...I'd suggest a slightly easier coding
program called R95...It is used pretty widely on Packet and so is the
program called 7Plus...However UUE/UUD will work fine...
-> Thanks in advance.
-> --
-> 73, Cecil, KG7BK, OOTC (All my own personal fuzzy logic, not Intel'
->
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Date: Tue, 1 Nov 1994 11:54:27 GMT
From: seeler@UPEI.CA (David Seeler)
Subject: Pactor, HF, Binary File Transfers ( CDN Question)
Hi - this is a question from the not so cold north ( so far :-) )
where secret codes are prohibited but that may not preclude the transfer of
binary data on HF.
I was wondering if anyone has come across a terminal program which permits
the transfer of binary data or 8 bit data via pactor. Raw data sends are
possible with DSP/PK Gold for example - but I have yet to come across any
TNC program that would enable one to use the full capabilities of this mode.
Suggestions etc are most welcome since we are interested in exploring some
of these capabilities of Pactor.
Thanks in advance.....
de Dave Seeler, VY2DCS
Internet: Seeler@upei.ca
------------------------------
Date: 7 Nov 1994 04:03:19 GMT
From: joneil@infi.net
Subject: Pakratt for Windows-PK232MBX Problem
I recently installed Pakratt for Windows on my system and ran into a problem.
The program will run but will not control the PK232MBX. I tried all configuations
with no luck. To test the system I reinstalled Pakratt II for DOS. No problems!
Fully operational. To test operation from Windows I ran the DOS Pakratt in both
full screen and windowed modes. Again, no problems. Full operation.
Then I found something strange. If I run Pakratt II and quit the program and then
run Pakratt for Windows, it starts working fine! Has anybody run into this problem?
The only thing I suspect may be causing this is the age of the ROM software in
my PK232MBX (19 July 1990). It hasn't been upgraded for PACTOR but the unit
should still initialize shouldn't it?
Help! ~:)>
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Date: 2 Nov 1994 17:37:43 GMT
From: bc21470@bingsuns.cc.binghamton.edu ()
Subject: Uzbekistan licensing requirements?
I am looking for information about licensing requirements in
Uzbekistan, Kazakhstan, and Tajikistan.
I need answers to the following questions:
Is there a reciprocal licensing agreement between the U.S. and
Uzbekistan?
Who would I contact for this information?
How would I go about applying for a license there?
Any information on this would be greatly appreciated.
Thanks, Larry, N2AYW.
------------------------------
Date: 2 Nov 1994 17:36:33 GMT
From: bc21470@bingsuns.cc.binghamton.edu ()
Subject: Uzbekistan licensing requirements?
I am looking for information about licensing requirements in
Uzbekistan, Kazakhstan, and Tajikistan.
I need answers to the following questions:
Is there a reciprocal licensing agreement between the U.S. and
Uzbekistan?
Who would I contact for this information?
How would I go about applying for a license there?
Any information on this would be greatly appreciated.
Thanks, Larry, N2AYW.
------------------------------
Date: 7 Nov 94 08:52:46 GMT
From: healy@ee.unr.EDU (Bill Healy)
Subject: WINSOCK <-> AX25
> From: roschews@panix.com (Rob Roschewsk)
> Subject: WINSOCK <-> AX25
>
> Has anyone come up with a winsock.dll that talks to TCP/IP over AX25?????
>
> de KA2PBT
Look for ETHRAX25.ZIP on ftp.ucsd.edu. I think it's in
/hamradio/packet/tcpip/incoming
Bill N8KHN
healy@moriah.ee.unr.edu
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End of Ham-Digital Digest V94 #370
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